This is the post by the juror yesterday who was released.

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This is the post by the juror yesterday who was released.

damn! i understand omar’s *slight hesitance* to accept this juror!LOL

But this guy has got it absolutely correct!
He has knowledge of Sanford’s rich history of institutional racism and corruption, then added the facts he knows of this case and used his own common sense.
His opinion is based on what zimmerman did and what the Sanford Police dept did and did not do about Trayvon’s death.

I Love him! He’s a fucking HERO!!!

Trayvon’s Texts

I read this comment the other day on the Doth Protest too much blog. And I haven’t been able to get it out of my mind. I asked permission and got the OK to post it here. Hopefully many more people will get the same comfort I got from this person’s point of view.

2DogsOnly wrote this in the comment section, but I it’s not visible enough all the way down at the bottom. And don’t you think more people will appreciate the whole story. Not just the blurbs Omara & co. would like people to know. It’s only fair right? It’s all fair in love and war, right?

Because this is war, right? This is not the courtroom Omara first insisted this case would be tried in. So if he want’s everyone to know the *real Trayvon* and wants to publish things that won’t be coming into the trial, then why not show it all in the entire context? Won’t all the other texts and pictures help draw a more complete portrait of Trayvon? The more the better right? You’d think if these most recent items are so damning to the 17 year old boy imagine what the rest must be. After all, aren’t they interested in the whole picture?

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May 23, 2013 5:47 pm

I read the texts. First, I am a white grandmother so this is my vantage point.

Contrary to Zimmerman’s attorney trying to paint victim as bad apple, they show him  as an exceptionally gentle, sweet natured barely 17 teen. Where is the cussing or even a hint of anger in his texts? Not one FU. Not one asshole. Not one shit. His mom and dad are enacting a severe, to a teen, discipline making him leave his friends for the full 10 days. For a teen, 10 days away from his friends is an eternity bordering on torture.

So, where are his cussing, name calling, refusing to take responsibility words. You would fully expect them -90% of teens would be ranting about what an asshole my parents are! How could they! I hate them!

Now, let’s look at Zimmerman’s anger. He calls the 911 to complain ” the dog is gone but I WANT IT NOTED it took a full 30 minutes for someone to respond” I mean he is calling on dogs in his neighborhood every month and not strays but pets. So that is an anger problem but who takes the time to call the police to complain they weren’t quick enough, by god!!

I would take this black teen over this pissed off redneck as my neighbor every day, all day long. The White adult emails express  a deep seated rage against everyone, from neighbors to police.read his complaints when he becomes NW–”There was a black man taking discarded junk by the curb. You’ll know when trash day is so be on the look out for anyone carting away items you’ve left to be carted away”. ” and try to have someone home at all times”. He had just become NW and with these emails, the HOA should have noticed they had a weirdo that should be removed from watching their neighborhood.

No wonder the insurance co., paid out the claim so quickly.

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It’s me again here. I wanted to go ahead and add these couple of videos because it’s important to realize just how important it is to remember what this case is really about. It’s hard sometimes when we get bogged down with bullshit like the out of context and straight up false *discovery* docs like what omar did last week.

this 1st video talks about who zimmerman’s calls 911 about and types of language gz uses in these calls about black ppl in the neighborhood.

The second video gives those who keep saying the murder 2 charge was an over charge a swift kick in the ass for stupidity! How in the hell does a grown man who angrily gets out of his truck- ARMED, to chase whom he himself described as a “kid” in his “late teens” and then shoots this kid in the heart, and then jumps on top of him and RAMS his knees with all his weight into the dying boys NECK, squeezing the last bit of life out of him, and telling the neighbor NOT to call police but come and help him “RESTRAIN this guy”, how does anyone with common sense complain Zimmerman was over charged??? I mean if moving his left hand to avoid shooting it, and then aims and fires directly into a screaming, defenseless kid’s heart isn’t MURDER 1 or premeditated murder, then how about smothering him instead of calling an ambulance to help him? Which one of those actions do not represent at the very least a depraved mind?

Why keep zimmerman in prison for life?

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that’s exactly why gz had that evil smirk on his face all the way until he found himself in Judge Nelson’s courtroom.
but after that first hearing in front of Nelson his smirk hasn’t been seen again.

he stole Trayvon’s life because he likes to believe he’s superior to some people. not all, not most, but some. and that’s another one of his many problems. he honestly knows he’s a nobody, and he resents it. so he really has NO self esteem. except for that night, he certainly thought he was better than and more important than Trayvon Martin.

he thought he could kill this kid and everyone he around him would think he was a big man and at the same time, shower him with various prizes. maybe like a paid position either in the neighborhood or in the police department. but he was also looking forward to people fussing over him and pampering him, as if he actually risked his precious life to protect everyone’s car radio or the forgotten bicycles left outside.

he thought of Trayvon more like a trophy he’d won in a sport competition. the same way those cowardly, inadequate in the bedroom kind of rich assholes who like to go out and hunt exotic, endangered wild animals. like elephants or Bengal tigers.

gz still thinks he should get away with killing an innocent kid. and he has and will continue to do whatever he thinks it will take to make all the non-believers believe!

But I think people like him have no place amongst us. they can’t be cured. and even if they could be cured of a personality disorder like that, they’ve already lost any rights to treatment by the time he’s killed someone. because they didn’t just become an asshole the very day they committed the crime.
and in gz’s case, he had already too many warnings in which he chose to ignore. he should of gotten help
( if there is such a thing ) or learned his lesson, or isolated himself, before he did the irreparable damage to another person and the persons effected by the crime.

so the only fair thing to do is either his family or the government is to put him down. just like we’d do for any suffering animal who’s disease is too far advanced and/or incurable or is a danger to others.

people like gz should be treated the same way! if keeping them locked up is too expensive for their loved ones to pay for then the government could offer to do it for a nominal fee. but we shouldn’t keep people in prison for life just because they didn’t get the death penalty. why keep wasting resources on people who have taken other’s lives like the way gz took Trayvon’s. and especially when they can’t afford to pay their own way.
there’s starving innocent people who actually deserve to be taken care of with those resources wasted on the worthless.

Audio of zimmerman’s cousin telling police he molested her and another girl.

I like to call this picture Trayvon DollFace Martin

I like to call this picture Trayvon DollFace Martin

This is some audio of the cousin gz molested.

She came forward within two days of the murder. Long before media ever heard of Trayvon’s murder, long before any 911 calls were released. And long before this witness would know ANY of the details of the murder!

She also says he did it to someone else who would never tell.

Something to listen for in her statement is the *tense* she uses to describe the actions. When she talks about an individual act, she maintains the same tense “then he put his hands all over me” and ” he made me look at it”. When people are bullshitting they will jump around and say things like ” after that he is kissing me” and ” then he was on top of me”. I’m no linguistics expert but that’s the best way I can explain it now.

So what i’m saying is all these things add up and are consistent with someone telling the truth. That and normal psychologically fit people do not lie about this kind of humiliation! Period!

http://youtu.be/Uvp0p-gbT5c

Lonnie Starr: G. Zimmerman stalked and killed Trayvon Martin

 I had to save another thoughtful message Lonnie posted the other day on Professor Leatherman’s blog.

 In this one I think Lonnie helps explain the bizarre story line Zimmerman’s lawyers will put forth at trial, in the hopes the six people who end up on the jury are stupid and senseless enough to believe is a reasonable excuse for the cold blooded murder of an innocent teenager.

Personally, I can’t imagine jurors will mistake this kind of mind fuckery as some sort of justification for Zimmerman. These people will understand the inherent danger Zimmerman represented as he jumped out of the car armed with a 9mm he had loaded to the max with those deadly hollow point bullets. These facts clearly point to Trayvon Martin as the sole victim. And that Trayvon Martin was the unfortunate one caught in that killer’s murderous path on the evening of February 26, 2012. And Trayvon Martin never had a chance.

 

Lonnie Starr says:

This is a teachable moment,  otherwise,  it matters not which way the defendant goes,  because the SP will be there to meet him with an overwhelming supply of incriminating,  rebuttal and impugning materials.  Much of it fashioned by no one other than the defendant himself,  in a foolish effort to further and forward a self serving story of innocence that he has continued to attempt to contrive.

But,  before GZ puts one word before a judge or jury in this case,  the one question he has not answered and requires an immediate answer is:  What was GZ doing,  and/or what had GZ done,  that would have indicated to anyone he showed an interest in,  that he was not either a criminal or a threat???  

GZ’s narrative shows that he knew that Trayvon knew,  that GZ was following him.

So,  GZ has now to explain to us and everyone else,  why Trayvon should not have thought of GZ as a potential threat.   It is not sufficient that in GZ’s mind Trayvon was a suspect and GZ was the NW’er.  Because if GZ cannot demonstrate how he advertised this idea,  then there is no way that any stranger,  would not see his actions as a serious threat.  It is a crime to take such actions,  in a public place,  that would cause another person or persons to fear for their safety.  One cannot cause others to fear for their safety,  and still claim to be acting within the law and/or exercising any rights that they have. 

GZ is attempting,  by saying “I was just going in the same direction as he was”,  to pretend that if Trayvon happened to be scared,  it was an unintended accident,  borne of misinterpreting  exactly what GZ was really doing. 

GZ is trying to say that he was viciously attacked,  while he was merely attempting to return to his truck.  Unfortunately for GZ,  the law doesn’t see it this way.  Once you cause someone to fear for their life,  by engaging in strange and/or threatening actions,  you cannot simply consider the effects “turned off” by some unilateral mental attempt to cease and desist.  Because actions that cannot be detected,  because they are not communicated,  cannot be allowed or permitted to have any bearing at all,  on the situation.   He cannot cause the threat he represented to go away,  simply because he mentally flips a switch inside his own head. 

So,  to be lawful,  GZ needs to show that he somehow published that he was not a criminal and/or that he was not a serious threat. 

GZ seems to feel that,  when he decides to follow some one,  they should immediately stop and wait for the police to arrive.  But what he doesn’t tell anyone is,  why?  Why should they not fear being followed by a stranger with no insignia,  no uniform,  no badges, patches or other sign,  to show that he is not a person with criminal intentions? 

GZ’s failure to identify himself,  is probable cause of criminal intent!  Most especially since the law says it is conduct that he is prohibited from committing.  Because without any exchange of information to allay the fears of the person he pursued,  he is engaging in the crime of stalking.  Since he is committing a crime,  he has no claim to SYG or SD protections.